Penguen 3.0 Compatible Packages! First come, first served!

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There is no such thing as a Penguin 3.0 compatible package, nor will there be. Package sellers or backlink providers;
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  • if they publish promotional articles starting from the publication date- if they have 10 promotional articles but don’t publish at least five or ten original content pieces without links- if they sell promotional articles and packages using weak drop domains- if they send us reports in the form of site:siteadi.com in search engines calling them whois backlinks- if you are still having one article submitted to dozens of forums or dozens of blogs, or if they are submitting them or[/ol]
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There cannot be a Penguin 3.0 compatible package; even if the things I listed were fixed, these packages would no longer work. Your site will be like an inflated balloon, it won’t look natural. And when the time comes, it will burst. While Google is thinking about this much AdWords revenue, that balloon will burst.

If you don’t want to experience such a situation, either learn SEO by researching thoroughly and do it yourself. If you have time, definitely do it yourself. Or work with professionals who stay away from packages. Work with people you believe have extensive SEO knowledge.

The list above will be updated, I am already a bit angry. I decided to start this list so that people can see clearly what they are getting when buying packages. I didn’t think too much while writing this; if you have suggestions to add to the list, tell me and I’ll add them immediately. Because there are quite a few items to criticize and teach to those who don’t know.

My more detailed comment on this subject a day or two ago:

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Unfortunately, we are at the mercy of Google. And again, we urgently need to distance ourselves from Web Spam operations. The blow suffered by those who work with cheap package sellers adding 10-15 promotional articles to their site daily, thinking SEO is just backlinks, and having hyper expectations is obvious. Many have been burned. You are writing many things in anger, I understand. But even the most expert SEOs cannot make a clear generalization right now.

Actually, not much has changed since Penguin Algorithms started. Only Google’s sanction dose against Web Spam has intensified. Previous sanctions were warnings in the form of small ranking losses. However, right now you have experienced, or will experience, sharp drops.

Especially in these kinds of WM Forums, anyone with a mouth has become an SEO expert. Anyone who gets their hands on an automatic article and link submitting program has become an expert SEO. These guys are selling like hotcakes. They advertise in the most viewed area of the forum. They buy Platinum memberships and shove worthless link dumps in our faces every second. And influenced by this, you surrendered yourselves to works that actually have no positive features in the name of SEO.

Now you are after us asking how to save ourselves. Go ask those package sellers if they have any recovery strategies. They will offer you lies like “come let’s do a higher package, the more links, the more traffic, etc.”

Well, maybe the management will consider this situation and if they block these package threads that result in nothing but harm for Google SEO, believe me, you will all be saved.

Business ethics are completely gone. The knowledge that these works are harmful for Google SEO is not new, and knowingly these works are ignored and even given the top spot, generating ad revenue. Everything has been sold out. Whatever else I say is in vain.

Either don’t get involved in SEO works, or work with people/institutions who really put in effort, starting from within your site to build natural links. Don’t badmouth either the sector or Google realities due to mistakes made.

Get well soon to those who have been burned. Let the sin of those who cause pain be on their own necks. Let this disgrace come to an end now.
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I agree with what you said, sir. Just like those beauty products that exist but contain ingredients harmful to the skin; you use them, you beautify yourself a bit, but then you explode and become even more disgusting than before.

Now, would it be logical for those selling harmful packages to say “what should we do, they shouldn’t have bought it, we are only offering”? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Even though THEY themselves know very well that what they are selling is wrong, the fact that they continue really makes me unable to make sense of it.

They have 50-100 buffer sites; Blogspot, Tumblr, Wordpress, almost all posting full promotional article outbound links, and they still say you will experience a soaring rise with this. There you go, those who bought that service experienced the “flight”.

WISE UP WHEN BUYING PACKAGES!

After all this anger, let me tell you about another incident I witnessed, so you can be even more shocked. I know them! I see them, and I guess they are still actively continuing their sales on R10 and Wmaracı non-stop.

A friend who owns a movie site asked me for some recommendations via Facebook, saying “what can I do, bro” etc. I asked for a bit more information about his site, what he is doing, what he has done, etc. His site was a few weeks old, and when it was only a week or two old, he wanted to buy a package from this gentleman. Naturally, since the keywords were difficult, they RECOMMENDED their biggest package!

As known, every package seller’s biggest package contains massive links, and most links are excessively present from the blogs I mentioned above. I will ask you three questions now:

1- What kind of impact does this biggest package provide to a one or two-week-old site, what does this package do to a site with low traffic and not many indexed pages?
2- When asked which site it will be done for, can’t the person selling the package check the site in site analysis or query whois, or ask the site owner to learn the age of the site?
3- While they can learn, and while there is a very high probability that their package is harmful, is it too hard to give up doing this to a lovely guy’s site for some XX money—thank God this fee is only double digits!—is it too hard to refrain for that XX money, oh friends?

Just like my first example, I have taken a strong stance against people who sell like drugs with this update. I say again, act smart when buying packages!

Additionally: Proof can be shown to those who want it, I’m not saying “watch your step” but at least enter one piece of original content a year into those trash buffer sites!

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Actually, what you say is true. But when the market is this broken, human nature cannot hold back from some things. Namely; lacking the knowledge to explain things and convince people of what they are explaining, they simply parrot what potential customers—whose heads are already filled with dense misinformation—want to hear, thus taking the money that someone else would have earned. The people buying these packages were going to find and buy them from someone anyway. Why shouldn’t they buy from the first person they encounter, and why shouldn’t the first person they encounter sell to this man? This is business…

Let me tell you about a small incident I experienced;

“I am an Agricultural Engineer and I deal with trade. Yesterday a customer walked in the door. She asked me for a product for a problem. I showed her alternative products. But I told her that if she used this product carelessly, she could suffer and cause long-term damage to her body’s organs. The woman was shocked and confused; she had come with her husband, and I told the lady that all such products could cause such issues, but that she wouldn’t suffer these problems if she paid attention to the necessary things. But what I said to the woman seemed very risky. She seemed about to give up on buying. Later, there is a risk in my job of incurring someone’s curse. If I sell this to you without explaining these things, you might get hurt. Then turning to her husband, I said that actually such a thing cannot even be a subject in trade. Does a businessman badmouth his goods, or say something risky to prevent a sale? But I said my mission does not allow me to not explain these things. The man agreed with me. Then I finished my sale by telling them about an incident I experienced with another customer. I told them that another customer had come to buy the same product and that customer was also confused, repeatedly asking ‘I wonder if it will harm my body a lot?’ I gave an example using the Coca-Cola I saw in that customer’s hand, making a comparison like: ‘I guarantee it will cause less harm than the Coca-Cola in your hand.’ Then, just as I sold the product to the customer in the cola example, I sold the product to the lady who came with her husband.”

Now, I am not condemning or blaming the guys selling these packages. I have bought them in the past too. But I look at it this way. From those guys, along with the packages, I also purchased the experience of what kind of effect these and similar packages create.

What you are trying to do is something to be appreciated and supported. However, I don’t think there is a crime here as mentioned regarding the seller and the buyer in the topic. I hope I have been able to convey what I mean…

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For example, I’m looking for an SEO guy to work with me but I can’t find one; they all do trash work. They come and keep bragging about themselves. The market is full of gravediggers. Actually, you’re going to end up having foreigners do it…

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Sir, if a beautiful site built with months of effort is gone, if a student has their saved-up 120 lira, I definitely do not agree with your “there is no fault in my opinion” stance. Let’s talk about these 2 things I mentioned. Put months of effort into your site, your apple of your eye, then unconsciously buy a package. Let the conscious seller not say it will harm. Let the site become trash, let the indexing time go crazy, let it not rank you. What is the point of being at the top for a month and then never coming back (getting backlinks deleted and whatnot, these are hard jobs too, I assume these didn’t happen)? Your beautiful site is gone, flown away, died, blown up—you choose the adjective!

2- Sir, is money something easily earned that these men are doing things with visible risks? Let me restate my example from the topic to you; it’s called beauty cream but its side effects are plentiful, temporary, or more than the main effect. In fact, it is a cream where the side effects are highly likely to kick in once the main effect wears off. And the price is not a small sum for every person who puts effort into looking beautiful. 120 lira, 140 lira, 100 lira etc. Presumably, the seller of that cream sees so much money, their wallet is so wide that they are INCAPABLE of empathizing! There are signs that the money earned is bordering on sinful (haram), I am speaking this openly and sharply, Sir. It would take me a few hours to have you open the books and write about the sins of both the buyer and the seller on religious grounds.

In the incident you experienced, what you did was the requirement. The product must be explained in full by the dealer, that is, the seller. The buyer must also examine everything; trade ethics require this. The absence of one breaks the order. You also did the right thing by explaining, and closed the sale with your trade experience. Good for you, good for your business. However, your example in your sector does not fit or resemble MY EXAMPLES (multiple people came to this movie site etc. recommending the highest package). The man didn’t mention the harm, and on top of that, recommended his highest package, Sir; it is an extremely ridiculous and frustrating situation. You explained like a man, this product is beneficial in this way, all products are like this, then compared and sold it.

For God’s sake, how many package sellers make their sales by taking [customers] through this process? How many do business by talking this much with their customers? 20 percent, 10 percent…

Instead of buying this experience with money, I want them to gain this experience by spending 3-5 minutes READING, thanks to us keeping this topic up. My sole purpose is this; I opened the exact same topic on October 21, 2014, Sir, at wmaraci Penguen 3.0 Uyumlu Paketler! Yetişen Alıyor! | WM Aracı Let no one say a word to me for reducing someone’s sales numbers (I don’t think it decreases much anyway, but whatever), that is a whole other world.

If I can inform people with this topic they will spend time reading, and keep them away from potential troubles and problems, then good for me.

There are many hidden SEOs, Sir, real SEOs doing serious SEO, of course :slight_smile:

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Seo’muz yeni çıktı abi.. Bir buçuk porsiyon verelim mi :D:D:D:D

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1.5 portions, not spicy, with ayran on the side :smiley:

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Well said, Sir; you have really explained one of the truly heartfelt topics in detail. As you said, people are still buying these packages like crazy and continue to do so. Unfortunately, when people realize that these businesses usually grow with patience and care, they have sometimes lost a lot…

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Unfortunately, these packages are usually spicy.

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In this lovely forum, I would have liked people to comment on this issue with more serious and constructive remarks for the sake of everyone, being less indifferent than the serious SEOs, but unfortunately, not everything happens just because you want it to. We SEOs also turn a blind eye, and they continue their games. No one speaks out properly against the package sellers who perform the

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Interfering doesn’t change anything. On the internet, the structure of “get non-renewing links, come on get links like crazy, get links and your site will rise, get get get” is still dominant. The guy thinks his site will suddenly rise just because he gets 2,000 links at once, [assuming] there is no process of adding links to every place, no whois backlinks, no edu, blah blah blah.

Even though we try to raise awareness by writing articles as much as we can, this taboo won’t be broken because the way it is served is very pleasant, the word games played are magnificent, what more could you want? Plus, the buyer is happy, the seller is happy; they rejoice when their site hits 1st place in the first month, but then in the next algorithm update—oops SPAM—they come to their senses, but it becomes difficult.

Bad events must happen to learn something; that’s the order of the world, what can you do…

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Actually, I tried to express this in my message as well. Okay, awareness has increased in the market, but there will always be people selling and buying these packages. Because in every sector, in every market, there will be inexperienced people as well as experienced ones. Therefore, let’s explain as much as we can, so that those inexperienced people can gain experience… The friend explained it nicely…

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Süha, you have touched upon a very beautiful subject. However, one needs to struggle for another 5-6 years for the people trading with these individuals to change themselves. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness is at its peak.

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Süha, you have touched on a very good subject. However, it takes another 5-6 years of effort for people trading with these individuals to change themselves. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness

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Theft and fraud also happen through ignorance and greed; the thief uses the victim’s greed or ignorance, stealing and plundering even while knowing it will be of no use. Like